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whosjoefnperry
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Fuck Rolling Stone!
I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet...
The new Rolling Stone has a list of the "100 Greatest guitarists Of All Time". Joe Perry is #48 while Kurt Cobain is #12??? Does anyone else think that is seriously fucked up? And to add some more insult, Slash isn't even on the list. How could Kurt be at #12? He shouldn't even be on the list to begin with.
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Stevens Lips
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Joe, you are SO right. I question most of Rolling Stone's "lists" where the hell do they get their info???? 
"You wanna know if God has a sense of humor. Try being in a rock band and living way past your pre-destined expiration date. Then watch the chips fall." -Steven Tyler
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Mac the Aerohead
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these things are usually a load of bollocks. it's a question of popularity, rather than a question of skill, i reckon. how else can Cobain be at no. 12? answer - because he's most popular.
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Wild4JoePerry
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Joe should have been waaay higher!
Kurt Cobain being number twelve is due to one fact, his death. Typically death for a musician equals legend status. I guarantee if he were alive, he probably wouldnt have even been on the list.
Ugh, look at Angus Young all the way down at #96. And Slash being totally disregarded.
Edited by: Wild4JoePerry at: 9/11/03 2:14 pm
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templeofaero
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Rolling Stone is more fucked than Anna Nicole Smith.
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jennifer1812
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Re: Fuck Rolling Stone!
 Tammy!
That is such a crock!
There ain't no breeze to cool the heat of love . . .
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AeroLuvr4Ever
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I bought the P.O.S. magazine last week....
One look at it and I put it down...
~Ash : )
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ragdoll69
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The list is bogus, and anyone with an iota of taste knows it. Didn't Eddie Van Halen rank somewhere near #70??? Come on...Dumbasses. 
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templeofaero
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THE LIST (Where's Eric? Where's Gilby?)
 
1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden
Edited by: templeofaero at: 9/11/03 6:50 pm
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templeofaero
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The stuff Townsend wrote about Hendrix is great. Check it out.
Jimi Hendrix: The Greatest Guitarist of All Time
The bridge between the blues and modern sounds
By Pete Townshend
I feel sad for people who have to judge Jimi Hendrix on the basis of recordings and film alone, because in the flesh he was so extraordinary. He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD.
What he played was fucking loud but also incredibly lyrical and expert. He managed to build this bridge between true blues guitar -- the kind that Eric Clapton had been battling with for years and years -- and modern sounds, the kind of Syd Barrett-meets-Townshend sound, the wall of screaming guitar sound that U2 popularized. He brought the two together brilliantly. And it was supported by a visual magic that obviously you won't get if you just listen to the music. He did this thing where he would play a chord, and then he would sweep his left hand through the air in a curve, and it would almost take you away from the idea that there was a guitar player here and that the music was actually coming out of the end of his fingers. And then people say, "Well, you were obviously on drugs." But I wasn't, and I wasn't drunk, either. I can just remember being taken over by this, and the images he was producing or evoking were naturally psychedelic in tone because we were surrounded by psychedelic graphics. All of the images that were around us at the time had this kind of echoey, acidy quality to them. The lighting in all the clubs was psychedelic and drippy.
He was dusty -- he had cobwebs and dust all over him. He was a very unremarkable-looking guy with an old military jacket on that was pretty dirty. It looked like he'd maybe slept in it a few nights running. When he would walk toward the stage, nobody would really take much notice of him. But when he walked off, I saw him walk up to some of the most covetable women in the world. Hendrix would snap his fingers, and they followed him. Onstage, he was very erotic as well. To a man watching, he was erotic like Mick Jagger is erotic. It wasn't "You know, I'd like to take that guy in the bathroom and fuck him." It was a high form of eroticism, almost spiritual in quality. There was a sense of wanting to possess him and wanting to be a part of him, to know how he did what he did because he was so powerfully affecting. Johnny Rotten did it, Kurt Cobain did it. As a man, you wanted to be a part of Johnny Rotten's gang, you wanted to be a part of Kurt Cobain's gang.
He was shy and kind and sweet, and he was fucked up and insecure. If you were as lucky as I was, you'd spend a few hours with him after a gig and watch him descend out of this incredibly colorful, energized face. There was also something quite sad about watching him. There was a hedonism about him. Toward the end of his life, he seemed to be having fun, but maybe a little bit too much. It was happening to a lot of people, but it was sad to see it happen to him.
With Jimi, I didn't have any envy. I never had any sense that I could ever come close. I remember feeling quite sorry for Eric, who thought that he might actually be able to emulate Jimi. I also felt sorry that he should think that he needed to. Because I thought Eric was wonderful anyway. Perhaps I make assumptions here that I shouldn't, but it's true. Once -- I think it was at a gig Jimi played at the Scotch of St. James [in London] -- Eric and I found ourselves holding each other's hands. You know, what we were watching was so profoundly powerful.
The third or fourth time that I saw him, he was supporting the Who at the Saville Theatre. That was the first time I saw him set his guitar on fire. It didn't do very much. He poured lighter fluid over the guitar and set fire to it, and then the next day he would be playing with a guitar that was a little bit charred. In fact, I remember teasing him, saying, "That's not good enough -- you need a proper flame-thrower, it needs to be completely destroyed." We started getting into an argument about destroying your guitar -- if you're going to do it, you have to do it properly. You have to break every little piece of the guitar, and then you have to give it away so it can't be rebuilt. Only that is proper breaking your guitar. He was looking at me like I was fucking mad.
Trying to work out how he affected me at my ground zero, the fact is that I felt like I was robbed. I felt the Who were in some ways quite a silly little group, that they were indeed my art-school installation. They were constructed ideas and images and some cool little pop songs. Some of the music was good, but a lot of what the Who did was very tongue-in-cheek, or we reserved the right to pretend it was tongue-in-cheek if the audience laughed at it. The Who would always look like we didn't really mean it, like it didn't really matter. You know, you smash a guitar, you walk off and go, "Fuck it all. It's all a load of tripe anyway." That really was the beginning of that punk consciousness. And Jimi arrived with proper music.
He made the electric guitar beautiful. It had always been dangerous, it had always been able to evoke anger. If you go right back to the beginning of it, John Lee Hooker shoving a microphone into his guitar back in the 1940s, it made his guitar sound angry, impetuous, and dangerous. The guitar players who worked through the Fifties and with the early rock artists - James Burton, who worked with Ricky Nelson and the Everly Brothers, Steve Cropper with Booker T. -- these Nashville-influenced players had a steely, flick-knife sound, really kind of spiky compared to the beautiful sound of the six-string acoustic being played in the background. In those great early Elvis songs, you hear Elvis himself playing guitar on songs like "Hound Dog," and then you hear an electric guitar come in, and it's not a pleasant sound. Early blues players, too -- Muddy Waters, Buddy Guy, Albert King -- they did it to hurt your ears. Jimi made it beautiful and made it OK to make it beautiful.
(From RS 931, September 18, 2003)
templeofaeroNOTE: Reading this article reminded me of Eric Sardinas, in many respects.
Edited by: templeofaero at: 9/11/03 6:51 pm
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kimboperry
Kimbo, Temple Scribe
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Excellent read! Very well written!
He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed. He became incredibly graceful and beautiful. It wasn't just people taking LSD, though that was going on, there's no question. But he had a power that almost sobered you up if you were on an acid trip. He was bigger than LSD.
Gave me chills right from the get-go! 
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The Mad Hatter
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Awesome Article!!!!
Truly Fabulous!!!
Quote:
He had a kind of alchemist's ability; when he was on the stage, he changed. He physically changed.
<Joe Perry>
He did this thing where he would play a chord, and then he would sweep his left hand through the air in a curve, and it would almost take you away from the idea that there was a guitar player here and that the music was actually coming out of the end of his fingers.
<Jimmy Page>
It was a high form of eroticism, almost spiritual in quality. There was a sense of wanting to possess him and wanting to be a part of him, to know how he did what he did because he was so powerfully affecting.
<Eric Sardinas>
They are the only guitar players that I have had the good fortune to see live that qualify in any way, shape or form... the only 3 who could make me feel those feelings, think those thoughts, and leave me speechless.
Tammy...do you now understand why I didn't speak or make an expression when you took me to see Eric, when you were swearing up and down that I absolutely HATED it?!?!?!
I told you that you were wrong... and I meant it! I just didn't have the words for it until now!
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templeofaero
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Oh my god, Elaine! You had me totally fooled! I swear, I had no idea. I honestly thought that you weren't as affected by his performance as I was!
I am so happy to hear that I was wrong!
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Stevens Lips
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Not to discount The White Stripes, I don't know much about them at all.....but Jack White at #17.....aren't they like a minute old?? Who the hell are the crackheads that compiled this list???
"You wanna know if God has a sense of humor. Try being in a rock band and living way past your pre-destined expiration date. Then watch the chips fall." -Steven Tyler
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templeofaero
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Don't even get me started about The White Stripes. Talk about overrated!
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Tab1975
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Um.....
Where the hell is BRAD???? HUH????
WAAAAY off their rockers on a lot of them. SOOO many are missing, and so many are in the top twenty that haven't even earned their stripes yet. And so many young people that are GOOD, but not even in the top 100.
Am I the only one who's digging that chick from the Donnas?....I believe her name is Allison. She's out Ace Frehley'd Ace Frehley on "Strutter" and "Speedin' Back to My Baby" (this said by an Ace fanatic). Anyway, was watching that "End of Summer" thing on MTV the other day, and she just WAILED. SHE deserves to be on there more than...scuse me while I make a face....JACK WHITE.
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whosjoefnperry
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I'm still pissed off. I'm a better guitarist than Kurt Cobain. I mean that with no disrespect because I like Nirvana.
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templeofaero
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Joe, contact me please.
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badboysfromboston
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This list has been the source of pissed-offedness in our household for the past week or 2...  .... I've concluded that RS intended to stir the pot & piss ppl off because there's no such thing as bad publicity. I'd bet that a few of the writers wrote the names of 100 or more guitar players down on pieces of paper, threw them in a hat, and pulled out names and put them on the list in no particular order.
You Leave me...Thunderstruck
Yeah yeah yea thunderstruck...
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